The trouble with this country is the Daily Mail


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“Immigrant-bashing, woman-hating, Muslim-smearing, NHS-undermining, gay-baiting”. That’s how one critic has described the Daily Mail. It depicts a world where traditional British values are under siege – from the EU, rising crime, and benefit scroungers – and it assures its readers that they are not alone in their anxieties. It loves nothing more than a good health scare. According to the Mail, almost everything causes cancer (116 items at the last count, including salami, flipflops and chimney sweeping). As for women, they are castigated for trying to ‘have it all’, and any female celebrity who ‘dares to bare’ on the beach is subjected to microscopic scrutiny of her physique. Perhaps most worrying of all is the power the Mail holds over our politicians. “What would the Mail say?” is the question ministers ask themselves when considering any liberal policy that might get a slap-down from the paper. Making the case against the Mail in this debate will be Zoe Williams of the Guardian and the Rev Richard Coles, the former popstar who is now a parish priest and much-loved Radio 4 presenter.

On the other side of the argument we have Daily Mail columnist Peter Oborne and Roger Alton, former editor of the left-leaning Observer newspaper. As they will point out, the Mail is the UK’s most popular newspaper in print and online. Millions of ‘ordinary’ people read it because it understands and articulates their concerns better than other papers. Mail readers are decent, hardworking people, struggling to pay their bills, ambitious for their children and loyal to their country. Hatred of the Mail comes largely from the liberal elite who sneer at unfashionable types who don’t work at the BBC or the Guardian. The Mail may be hard on immigrants and celebrities, but it has served this country time and again by exposing the wrongdoings of the rich and powerful. And it has a fine track record as a campaigning newspaper, most famously bringing the killers of Stephen Lawrence to justice by naming them murderers and challenging them to sue.


Date: September 11, 2021

25 thoughts on “The trouble with this country is the Daily Mail

  1. Stop creating dictatorial regimes,stop taking wars to the poorest countries in the world!
    Stop printing that racist paper as it is only spreads poison ,nothing else!

  2. The lady in the awful pink truly encapsulates the goofball of a loony liberal that the whole world is sick and tired of. The liberal elitist, self-righteous, virtue-signalling snobbery is exactly why so many people have turned against the delusional Marxists. I wouldn’t even stand next to the goofball in pink who cannot even dress properly to be taken seriously!

  3. The reader is the real trouble with the Daily Mail. Without the reader, the Daily Mail wouldn't exist. As for women working at the Daily Mail, does not equate that the Daily Mail represents women's rights.

  4. Hilariously the Daily Mail method of argumentation for its existence matches the reason why it shouldn't – dotted among the really awful, unevidenced, misleading and manipulative articles it runs, it runs a handful of positive ones – and it wants to highlight those, while still quietly printing all the hate and fear. The DM is a bait and switch. It is the deceiver.

  5. Newspapers are a direct reflection of the level of education of a country. Tabloid dont exist in much of europe where education systems reach out to all people, rich and poor. Around half of British university students come from the British private school system (curiously known to Britons as public schools) which represents 10% of high school students. This means that 90% of students, those who graduate from free schools, are 10 times less likely to get a high quality university education than if their parents had been able to afford private tuitions. The Daily Mail benefits directly from this sad fact. As my american friends say when they visit the UK: when did Britons stop speaking english? The sad truth is they never learned (except for the aforesaid 10%). Britain is unique in its disregard for its citizens. Many recent spectacular examples of that from the Windrush scandal to those flammable high rise buildings, a much lower life expectancy, a terribly bad public healthcare for the 90% (while the top 10% can afford excellent private healthcare) and Brexit. Britain is a country made by the top 10% for the top 10%. The rest are Daily Mail readers.

  6. the last guy is really good at bullshitting people who are gullible that's for sure. starting around the 40 minute or so mark

  7. Dearest Richard Coles, How beautiful a Human You are.
    If I were ever to go into 'battle' I would ask You to be My 'right hand Man' .
    I would hope that YOU would accept.
    Enough said.


    I’ve seen the poison letters of the horrible hacks
    About the yellow peril and the reds and the blacks
    And the TUC and its treacherous acts
    Kremlin money – All right Jack
    I’ve seen how democracy is under duress
    But I’ve never seen a nipple in the Daily Express

    I’ve seen the suede jack boot the verbal cosh
    Whitehouse Whitelaw whitewash
    Blood uptown where the vandals rule
    Classroom mafia scandal school
    They accuse – I confess
    I’ve never seen a nipple in the Daily Express

    Angry columns scream in pain
    Love in vain domestic strain
    Divorce disease it eats away
    The family structure day by day
    In the grim pursuit of happiness
    I’ve never seen a nipple in the Daily Express

    This paper’s boring mindless mean
    Full of pornography the kind that’s clean
    Where William Hickey meets Michael Caine
    Again and again and again and again
    I’ve seen millionaires on the DHSS
    But I’ve never seen a nipple in the Daily Express

  9. The sad thing is that the Daily Mail claims to serve their readers but they are only manipulating the frailties that come with their readers' social class. The Daily Mail wants you to chose a side, not because they have your best interest, but because they want you keep buying for them. By sensationalizing everything and by tapping into bitter anxieties, fears and insecurities of people, they polarize the nation and continue to profit.

    On the flip side, the speakers for the motion's argument falls flat on deaf ears. Labeling the Daily Mail (and its readers) as racist, fascist, etc. shows that they don't quite know how to communicate to the DM audience. It further polarizes the two sides and actually gives the Daily Mail more moral high-ground to win the argument by whipping out the good ol' "British values being under attack" argument. If you carefully listen, Peter Oborne gives some tips on how (not) to communicate to people of a particular social class so that they listen to you. Labeling and shaming someone as a racist/fascist in absolution usually does the opposite of what you want, they will only retract and close themselves to what you are trying to tell them.

  10. As much as the DM provokes and spreads falsehoods, totally agree with the first man against the motion. They hold various areas of society to account better than any. The guardian would be dead and buried long before they would say a word about the misuse of public funds if not perpetrated by a private company.

  11. Celebrate Earth Day, every day, by getting a vasectomy or tubal ligation. This should become as popular as getting a tattoo. More adults have tattoos compared to those who do not. The human population doubles about every forty years. If you support Extinction Rebellion and are over age 18, you should consider getting a tubal ligation or vasectomy. Every year robots and machines replace more workers; it is unfair to have children which are going to have to compete with billions for the same college spot and scarce jobs. If you are wealthy, please fund a daily campaign aimed at white males (it will become like getting a tattoo when millions notice that those who have a vasectomy or tubal ligation have happier lives) on rock music radio stations with a true ad like this with these details: 1. Sign up to win a daily contest of one person per day, free meals for life, three meals per day, drinks and dessert included, for the rest of your life, AFTER you get a vasectomy or tubal ligation. This should, include their children and grandchildren in order to get the attention of millions and 'do it Dad do it Mom!!!' These will be from popular fast food companies so your location won't matter if you are traveling, they are in almost every city. This can be verified both with coupons and if you choose, a photo of your ears, which are the best way to identify people on camera. Winners who choose the vegan or vegetarian menu (Taco Bell and other smart companies are doing this) will get six three meals per day for the rest of your life AFTER you get a vasectomy, or TL because meat is more expensive to produce, keep fresh, and dispose of (rodents are attracted to the smell of meat). The doctor and clinic is carefully chosen to be highly trained and have a successful record. Every patient is shown the same 'before, during, afterward' videos in order to be prepared for the procedure, and to be treated like everyone else 'no favorites' because of your accent, etc. Each patient should be allowed to have a friend (or nurse) sit next to them and hold their hand for extra emotional support; this in and of itself might increase the number signed up for the procedure by one billion every year. Each patient will get a free one month (at least two weeks, in case they need to take an antibiotic to make sure they don't get an infection and stay as clean as possible). Also, it is important to not lift anything too heavy after any surgery, so this free hotel stay, with free room service for meals and laundry, and free movies on t.v. will help keep the patient from lifting anything too heavy (or getting into trouble which could effect the surgery). Ideally, the hotel stay should be three months because the caring doctor at the websites and warns that men can get a women pregnant accidentally three months after the vasectomy because 'old' sperm can remain in the tubes for up to three months. The patients should be warned about this in the video and be given (coupons) and free condoms in an upscale suitcase on wheels when each man leaves to go home. Include tubes of the new brand Lume, to help keep clean and prevent infection. Raise the number of sign ups by including a free complete gym outfit and life long membership to Planet Fitness. All vegan chefs should get involved in teaching a free one month course to every patient (by video with Skype for question and answer) so they leave with new cooking skills. All the above could help lower the millions of addicts to alcohol and hard drugs because that is often caused by wanting to block out the pain of hunger. Try to train as many as possible to be able to work in vegan or vegetarian food companies in a wide range of jobs in the hospitality industry. This helped the city of Healdsburg, California (should be copied in every town and city all over the world, their hospitality industry training) overcome the recent fire destruction, support everyone who needed help, including the fire department workers. Ideally, try to involve the brother of Elon Musk, who has made it his life mission (after breaking his neck in a skiing accident) to improve the food industry. Ideally, the hotel stay should involve free swimming lessons in order to reduce the number of drowning deaths every year (all education levels, all 'walks of life' millions don't know how to swim enough to save their own life, let alone a child who falls into a pool). Gentle stretching classes and 'progressive relaxation' (similar to basic self hypnosis, repeating calming phrases quietly, in one's thoughts) classes could be taught as well, in order to lower the number of deaths from alcohol and hard drug addiction. Each patient could be tested for dyslexia, etc., and given a free, online educational program to match their interests and goals. This might have prevent the deaths of the three campers in Canada, including a professor of botany in B.C. Canada. One of the shooters had been a sweet boy but grew up to become addicted to Hitler, Putin, Trump and wargames, because his dyslexia and the poverty of his father (bone thin, like a concentration camp victim) made it impossible to keep up with his successful school peers. The damage these two 19 year olds caused (as well as three murders) probably cost millions in extra police hour wages as well as lost profits by lost customers. All the above could help every town and city save millions (of pounds) in every category of government budgets (if you don't care at all about helping people). The above could help lower the number (millions) born to women from customers in sex 'tourism' in almost every town and city all over the world. This is done by people like Donald Trump, who call their sex 'tourism' running a beauty pageant, etc. or 'muscle competition.' Children, teens, men and women who compete in these competitions should be warned that the winners often have to submit to the 'casting couch' in order to win anything, similar to t.v., modeling and film jobs. Thank you for reading this carefully, discussing this with your friends, and if you have talent or funds (Resource Generation, interviewed in the October issue of Town and Country on You Tube) to help make the above happen asap. Have a very good day! November 2019

  12. The guardian columnist was utterly insufferable and just parroting dog shit leftie buzz words and talking points.

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